Gothic/dark Atmosphere

[Morgred]

as vrea sa stiu si eu din punct de vedere al compozitiei care ii reteta unui sound gothic? atmosfrea aia specifica....

[vektor]

Contrapunct. Doua voci, chitara/clape/acustic.

 

Despre moduri, game si alte tampenii, sper sa iti raspunda altcineva care le stapaneste.

[Razvan Alexandru]

E mult de vorbit pe tema asta si oricum, nu exista o reteta unica. Exponentii principali ai scenei au avut retete diferite si toate au functionat. Putem vorbi daca vrei pe tema asta. Cel mai sigur iti pot spune ceea ce ne-a scos pe noi in evidenta. Despre altii, cu retetele lor, pot doar face aprecieri cvasi-obiective.

 

Acum daca recitesc titlul postului te intreb: gothic curat sau gothic metal (cu subgenurle lor)? Sunt lucruri diferite, cu aceeasi esenta insa.

[vektor]

Ce am scris mai sus se refera doar la "metal". Ms Razvan pentru corectie

[Razvan Alexandru]

nu era o corectie, se pare ca eu scriam in acelasi timp cu tine si abia dupa aia am vazut ca ai postat si tu. deci, np.

[Morgred]

mda cam gothic metal. contrapunct? ha?

[vektor]

Mah, Razvan s-a oferit sa te ajute, eu zic sa il bati la cap cat poti de mult cu intrebari

 

Anyway si io pot sa iti dau cateva sfaturi, use PM/contact.

[Morgred]

ok ok. deci spui ca sant multe de povestit. incepe cu inceputu. sunt numai ochi

[Metabog]

Depinde ce vrei sa spui prin "gothic", poti intelege gothic rock, gothic metal, sau genuri derivate gen darkwave, etc.

 

Opinia mea e ca versurile au cea mai mare importanta. Trebuie ascultat formatiile originale, The Cure, Siouxie & The Banshees, Bauhaus, Sisters of Mercy, etc, care au existat inaintea trupelor moderne care in general sunt derivate din metal si uneori chiar au growl.

 

Luat de pe wikipedia:

 

In gothic rock, the guitar tone is usually processed with electronic effects[1]. The genre is also known for its frequent use of synthesizers[1]. As well, gothic rock has a characteristic guitar playing style. Gothic rock guitar playing takes its downstroke playing style from punk, and emphasizes angular melodic lines instead of thick chords. Minor keys and minor mode melodies are prevalent, but major keys are also used. The Phrygian mode, with a flattened second scale degree contributes to the gothic sound with its "haunting" and dissonant mood. Gothic rock songs are typically mixed so that there is a heavy bass sound, which creates a moody and gloomy atmosphere.

 

Gothic rock often uses repetitive snare drum snap to propel the beat, either a real drum beat or, later on, usually a drum machine beat. The metronomic snare drum sound can be first heard on Iggy Pop's The Idiot. It continues on in Joy Division's songs, Gary Numan's early music, on early Cure CDs (beginning with Seventeen Seconds) and early Sisters of Mercy recordings. More sophisticated variations of the snare drum snap are used by Kevin Haskins in Bauhaus's music. In the 1990s, some bands in the gothic genre wrote songs with a more hard rock feel, such as the Sisters of Mercy's Vision Thing album, and Fields of the Nephilim, Rosetta Stone, London After Midnight, and The Wake.

 

Cat despre Gothic Metal:

 

 

The music of gothic metal is generally characterised by its dark atmosphere.[11] The adjective "dark" is commonly used to describe gothic music in general while other terms that are less frequently used include deep, depressing, romantic, passionate and intense.[12] Gothic metal has also been described as "a combination of the darkness and melancholy of goth rock with heavy metal".[13] All Music Guide defines the genre as a fusion of "the bleak, icy atmospherics of goth rock with the loud guitars and aggression of heavy metal" and further notes that "true goth metal is always directly influenced by goth rock - ethereal synths and spooky textures are just as important as guitar riffs, if not moreso".[14]

 

Gothic metal is a varied genre with bands pursuing many different directions, from "slow and crushing variations" to "orchestral and bombastic".[5] The doom metal background of early pioneers like Paradise Lost and My Dying Bride has been taken up by groups like Artrosis,[15] Ava Inferi[16] and Draconian.[17] The black metal approach of Cradle of Filth, Theatres des Vampires[18] and early Moonspell can be found in such subsequent bands as Graveworm,[19] Drastique[20] and Samsas Traum[21] while the symphonic metal approach of Tristania and Within Temptation can be found in other groups like the Epica and After Forever. Other variations include the death metal of Trail of Tears,[22] the folk metal of Midnattsol[23] and the alternative metal of Katatonia.[24]

 

There is also a diverse range of vocal styles in gothic metal. Male singers in the genre range from the guttural growls and black metal shrieks of Dani Filth[25] and Morten Veland[26] to the clean counter-tenor vocals of Østen Bergøy[26] and the baritone range of Peter Steele.[27] For the female singers, the different vocal styles includes the screams and growls of Cadaveria,[28] the "poppy" vocals of Tanja Lainio from Lullacry[29] and the operatic soprano style of Vibeke Stene from Tristania.[26] There are more female singers in gothic metal than there are in any other heavy metal subgenres[5] but female vocals are neither necessary nor synonymous with the genre. Liv Kristine of Theatre of Tragedy and Leaves' Eyes notes that the gothic tag is often misinterpreted and points out that "not every band with female vocals is a gothic band".[30] The genre is also known to attract more female fans relative to other subgenres of heavy metal music.[31]

[Morgred]

pai acuma ca am citit si ii mai clara treaba caut un gothic metal. fara growluri si fara voci feminine (nu am ceva cu niciunul dintre ele, le apreciez dar momentan ma concentrez pe ce am si ce imi place).

[Morgred]

deci seriously astept o parere de la cineva care stie nu citate de pe wiki ca atat am afacut si io... so please someone

[Cursedone]

deci seriously astept o parere de la cineva care stie nu citate de pe wiki ca atat am afacut si io... so please someone

pian/chitara pe gama minora, ritm lent, distors "greu", infundat, cu sunetu de bass pronuntat, cam ala e "soundu" doom/gothic metal. atmosfera o faci cu diverse chestii care tin de subtilitate: imagineaza-ti un cor de biserica sau ceva. asta ar putea sa iti dea o idee:

ca atmosfera cam asta ai vrea sa obtii nu?

 

cu vocea e mai greu:

 

poti ori ceva operatic:

sau

 

sau poti ceva cu growl:

 

sau poti ceva care nu e nici growl nici opera da suna creepy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3KispsRKCNI

[Morgred]

a treaia varianta ii deala :X

 

atunci daca stie cineva... cum so compus scorpion flower???? tot de moonspell. asta caut io. ceva ca moonspell sau ceva mai "clasic" ca si Charon.