Cosu Posted January 20, 2008 Share Posted January 20, 2008 Am dat peste seria asta de clipuri pe youtube. Chiar au respectivii 4 octave ? (fara falsetto) Eric Adams (solist vocal Manowar) David Lee Roth Rob Halford (Judas Priest) Mark Slaughter(solist vocal Slaughter) Geof Tate (solist vocal Queensriche) Chris Cornell(solist vocal Soundgarden/Audioslave) Michael Kiske(solist vocal helloween) David Coverdale Michael Matijevic(solist vocal Steelheart) Matt Barlow(Iced Earth) Va rog sa va uitati si peste profilul individului care a facut clipurile caci pare foarte pasionat de problematica asta. Din ce m-am documentat sumar un barbat poate canta cam 1-2 octave foarte rar 3 sau chiar 4. http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=jowox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barbarossa Posted January 20, 2008 Share Posted January 20, 2008 mai e si tata lor...adica freddie mercury Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stangaciu Posted January 20, 2008 Share Posted January 20, 2008 Si Bobby McFerrin poate tot 4 octave. L-am vazut la Bucuresti acu ceva vreme si e impresionant ce face singur... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bobby_McFerrin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hix Posted January 20, 2008 Share Posted January 20, 2008 Pe voce full e imposibil sa ai mai mult de 2 octave si ceva . Ce e peste e falsetto intarit(belting) care suna aproape ca vocea full(piept, cap ,piept+cap). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belt_%28music%29 - asa ating notele inalte(Peste C5-D5 si pana-n G5, poate mai sus in rare cazuri). Ce e sub alea 2 octave ( sub C3 pt. un tenor e fara pic de forta). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Superman Posted January 20, 2008 Share Posted January 20, 2008 (edited) din cate stiu rob a reusit ce-a mai mare performanta adica el chiar canta akolo nu doar ridica vocea Edited January 20, 2008 by Superman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freelancer Posted January 21, 2008 Share Posted January 21, 2008 (edited) pe bune, doar rob halford si michael matijevic, mai ales ultimul... pt edificare: SteelHeart - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2aIcb0IVcbU...feature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DUbUSac7Occ...feature=related o voce interesanta, solistul de la Pavlov's Dog: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jKRsJA5GgCo http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=slkBFgsE_g4 Edited January 21, 2008 by freelancer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor X Posted January 21, 2008 Share Posted January 21, 2008 Cosu, o rectificare (avand in vedere ca-s fan): GEOFF TATE - QUEENSRYCHE In rest, de acord cu freelancer, dar l-as include si pe Kiske. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gabrel Posted January 21, 2008 Share Posted January 21, 2008 Eu eram convins ca afirmatiile de genul X are un ambitus mai mare de 3 octave sunt fanteziste, dar se pare ca exista recorduri omologate de pana la 8 octave pentru femei, si 6 octave pentru barbati (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vocal_range - sectiunea World records and extremes of vocal range). Exista si un pretendent la un ambitus de 12,5 octave (brrr!), din pacate neconfirmat oficial. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hix Posted January 21, 2008 Share Posted January 21, 2008 (edited) off.. Depinde la ce te referi prin ambitus. Se pot emite multe sunete(asa si eu emit G2 daca ma chinui dar suna ca un cur). Important e daca au vreo valoare. Mike nu are 4 octave. Daca vreti numaram. Sub C3 nu poate cobori frumos ca e tenor. Hai sa zicem ca se duce in jos pana-n G2(care fac pariu ca-i suna si lui ca un cur). Oook. In She's gone urca pana-n G5(unde deja ma repet aiurea NU E VOCE PLINA ci falsetto intarit, belting). G2-G5 = 3 octave....din care o parte e belting. Unde-s 4 ? Ca sa va spulber fanteziile citez dintr-o carte : Voci de barbati: Tip Intindere Tesatura Tenor Lejer C3-C5 E3 - A4 Tenor liric B2 - C4 same ca mai sus Tenor Dramatic B1 - B4 same Bariton "Martin" B2 - A4 B2 - F4 Ce barbat poate Peste C5-D5 fara sa foloseasca belting ? Asta e un exemplu . Dar e contra-tenor( nu i-au functionat bijuteriile cand era mic prea bine ) ). din cate stiu rob a reusit ce-a mai mare performanta adica el chiar canta akolo nu doar ridica vocea E un F#5 si e tot in belting. Nu stiu ce-i aia "ce-a" mai mare. Edited January 21, 2008 by Hix Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Petrecce Posted January 21, 2008 Share Posted January 21, 2008 Eu eram convins ca afirmatiile de genul X are un ambitus mai mare de 3 octave sunt fanteziste, dar se pare ca exista recorduri omologate de pana la 8 octave pentru femei, si 6 octave pentru barbati (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vocal_range - sectiunea World records and extremes of vocal range). Exista si un pretendent la un ambitus de 12,5 octave (brrr!), din pacate neconfirmat oficial. Ma'ntreb daca urechea umana ar putea percepe asa ceva... Poate vreun delfin sau vreun fuckin' allien... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gabrel Posted January 21, 2008 Share Posted January 21, 2008 off.. Depinde la ce te referi prin ambitus. Se pot emite multe sunete(asa si eu emit G2 daca ma chinui dar suna ca un cur). Important e daca au vreo valoare. Sunt perfect de acord. Exista un interval in care poti emite, si un sub-interval in care emisia e optima, utila si in cazurile fericite, chiar placuta . Am folosit termenul de ambitus pentru intervalul mare, ale carui extreme sunt date de capacitatile fizice ale fiecaruia dintre noi. 4 octave pentru intervalul in care ceea ce canti suna si bine mi se pare in continuare de domeniul fantasticului, desi am citit despre recordurile respective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hix Posted January 21, 2008 Share Posted January 21, 2008 2 octave si ceva in care chiar sunetul e bun, concentrat, proiectat si controlat e excelent si mult mai mult decat suficient si foarte greu de obtinut. 4 e imposibil, poti sa ai vointa talent si orice ...NU SE POATE cat timp suntem oameni. Tine de modul in care e construit laringele. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor X Posted January 21, 2008 Share Posted January 21, 2008 Geoff Tate: E2 - "Speak" - "Operation Mindcrime", 1988 B5 - "Blinded" - "Queensryche EP", 1983 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hix Posted January 21, 2008 Share Posted January 21, 2008 B5- E2 = 4 o ctave fara o cvarta. Fac pariu ca E2-ul e pe http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Creaky_voice (vocal fry) si B5-ul e in belting. Brrr. Vocal fry is crap, belting is nice si oricum nu-s 4 octave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor X Posted January 21, 2008 Share Posted January 21, 2008 Chiar au respectivii 4 octave ? (fara falsetto) B5- E2 = 4 o ctave fara o cvarta. Fac pariu ca E2-ul e pe http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Creaky_voice (vocal fry) si B5-ul e in belting. Brrr. Vocal fry is crap, belting is nice si oricum nu-s 4 octave. Exactly my point. Vroiam sa-l contrazic pe Cosu, nu sa demonstrez ca Tate intr-adevar poate duce 4 octave, oricat de fan as fi. Acum, daca E2 e vocal fry tu decizi: "Speak" - atentie la refren Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hix Posted January 21, 2008 Share Posted January 21, 2008 (edited) Exactly my point. Vroiam sa-l contrazic pe Cosu, nu sa demonstrez ca Tate intr-adevar poate duce 4 octave, oricat de fan as fi. Acum, daca E2 e vocal fry tu decizi: "Speak" - atentie la refren Nu e vorba e contrazis. Exista mitul asta ca suntem clape ambulante ). Nu e E2 acolo pt. ca pot si eu sa-l iau ...si-s tenor ..si asa e si el. E un B2 amarat. Edited January 21, 2008 by Hix Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor X Posted January 21, 2008 Share Posted January 21, 2008 Nu e E2 acolo pt. ca pot si eu sa-l iau ...si-s tenor ..si asa e si el. E un B2 amarat. Esti tu sigur? Ultima nota din refren? Hmmm.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hix Posted January 21, 2008 Share Posted January 21, 2008 (edited) Pe Speak-ul din Speak your words e B2. B2-A2-C3 ceva de genu asta merge linia ...te referi la alt speak ? Edited January 21, 2008 by Hix Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor X Posted January 21, 2008 Share Posted January 21, 2008 Piesa se numeste "Speak". E2 pica pe ce-am subliniat eu mai jos: "Speak the word The word is all of us" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hix Posted January 21, 2008 Share Posted January 21, 2008 Abia am auzit us-ul ...Da pare E2 ...dar e atat de slab....vocal fry clar .. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metabog Posted February 1, 2008 Share Posted February 1, 2008 (edited) James LaBrie? Suspectez ca are in jur de 3 octave insa, dar s-ar putea sa gresesc. Daniel Gildenlow trebuie cercetat de asemenea Edited February 1, 2008 by Metabog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metabog Posted February 1, 2008 Share Posted February 1, 2008 (edited) Tipu asta tocmai a cantat un C#8... Edited February 1, 2008 by Metabog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
razvanciub8a Posted February 2, 2008 Share Posted February 2, 2008 ce bine ca nu am nici un caine prin preajma ca incepea sa faca urat dak il auzea pe tip ... cred ca asta a fost crescut de lilieci si invatat cu ultrasunetele Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hix Posted February 2, 2008 Share Posted February 2, 2008 Nota aia(C#8) e ca si cum as trage un vant si ar fi unul cu tunerul sa prinda ce frecventa a avut sunetul creat de vant si pac intru in cartea recordurilor cu cea mai joasa nota data de un tenor ). Labrie urca acolo pana-n F#5 si probabil coboara pana-n C3. F#5-ul oricum nu e pe voce plina ci pe falsetto intarit. You guys do the math. De o singura persoana pot baga mana in foc ca are 3 octave, profa mea de canto care-i mezzo. Are cam C3 C6 insa asta dupa ani buni de bel-canto. Insa nici ea nu coboara tot timpul pana-n C3 cateodata doar pana-n E3. Eu inca n-am vazut barbat cu mai mult de 2 octave in voce plina. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metabog Posted February 3, 2008 Share Posted February 3, 2008 (edited) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rAQDVZ_RyaM tipu asta e cel mai tare. cea mai inalta nota: cea mai joasa: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r05vZS-JO94 => 4 octave. Tipu are niste coveruri excelente de voce, Queensryche, DT, etc. more: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OWY-qL3IqpM&NR=1 Edited February 3, 2008 by Metabog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hix Posted February 4, 2008 Share Posted February 4, 2008 Bestial ce sa zic rupe... Boul de Florez abia are 2 si ceva, ce varzar ar trebui sa bow down in fata astuia... N-are rost sa mai argumentez nimic ca e useless. Making sounds doesn't make you a singer. Il las pe Florez sa-ti povesteasca. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tgqpQKEXtYQ . Asculta cum suna C5-urile alea si cata forta are. Asculta cat de concentrat e sunetul. Faptul ca o nota se poate emite nu e acelasi lucru cu cantatul ei. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metabog Posted February 4, 2008 Share Posted February 4, 2008 Bestial ce sa zic rupe... Boul de Florez abia are 2 si ceva, ce varzar ar trebui sa bow down in fata astuia... N-are rost sa mai argumentez nimic ca e useless. Making sounds doesn't make you a singer. Il las pe Florez sa-ti povesteasca. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tgqpQKEXtYQ . Asculta cum suna C5-urile alea si cata forta are. Asculta cat de concentrat e sunetul. Faptul ca o nota se poate emite nu e acelasi lucru cu cantatul ei. L-am pus pe tipul din video sa-mi inregistreze voce pe o piesa ABIA ASTEPT sa fie gata. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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