Base De Tobe?

[Musaro Adriano]

Scusatima pentru ignoranta in sector, dar daca as vrea niste base de tobe, unde le gasesc? sau cum sau cu ce program pot sa le fac? Ce folositi voi de pilda cand trebuie sa compuneti o piesa si aveti nevoie de o basa de tobe si nu aveti tobist? Am vazut ca pe net se mai gaseste cate ceva dar sunt fragmente. Multumesc anticipat pentru lamuriri. Numai bine Adri

[Guest Wierdguy]

Scusatima pentru ignoranta in sector, dar daca as vrea niste base de tobe, unde le gasesc? sau cum sau cu ce program pot sa le fac? Ce folositi voi de pilda cand trebuie sa compuneti o piesa si aveti nevoie de o basa de tobe si nu aveti tobist? Am vazut ca pe net se mai gaseste cate ceva dar sunt fragmente. Multumesc anticipat pentru lamuriri. Numai bine Adri

 

Uite o idee. Foloseste tobele din guitar pro...poti sa le exporti midi daca vrei inregistrare. CUbase accepta combinatii de midi cu inregistrare. Daca nu esti tobar cu experienta sau daca nu stii cum sa bati ceva, foloseste youtube sau inspira`te din bataile altor melodii.

[John Petrecce]

Uite o idee. Foloseste tobele din guitar pro...poti sa le exporti midi daca vrei inregistrare. CUbase accepta combinatii de midi cu inregistrare. Daca nu esti tobar cu experienta sau daca nu stii cum sa bati ceva, foloseste youtube sau inspira`te din bataile altor melodii.

 

Da, cred ca e buna ideea. Nu le stiu pe alea din guitar pro dar si eu folosesc tot ceva asemanator. Un prieten tobar mi'a dat ceva kituri de tobe pe care le export midi in cubase si folosesc din ele pe cele de baza (toba de picior; premier; fus) pe tempo simplu iar dupa ce e gata piesa ii dau inregistrarea in cubase iar el modifica tobele (in totalitate... ) si le pune in context.

Deci pe mine ma ajuta numai sa inregistrez piesa si cel mult raman asa daca piesa e liniara. Daca piesa e mai complexa sfatul meu ar fi sa o dai mai departe la un tobar de meserie.

Bafta!

[grosucelmare]

Scusatima pentru ignoranta in sector, dar daca as vrea niste base de tobe, unde le gasesc? sau cum sau cu ce program pot sa le fac? Ce folositi voi de pilda cand trebuie sa compuneti o piesa si aveti nevoie de o basa de tobe si nu aveti tobist? Am vazut ca pe net se mai gaseste cate ceva dar sunt fragmente. Multumesc anticipat pentru lamuriri. Numai bine Adri

 

Foloseste FX expansion BFD (are 9 GB kittu). Partitura midi se scrie in Cubase, iar BFD-ul se foloseste ca VST. Have fun!

[apocalipsa]

poti folosi Reason de la 2.5 in sus. actualmente versiunea e 4.0. sau orice clapa performanta care are tobe. evident exista si alte programe si alte posibilitati.

[Guest En1gma]

Daca iti trebuie un ritm de toba simplu, incearca Acoustica Mixcraft 3. Are multe sample-uri bune ptr. tobe.

[Musaro Adriano]

merci mult baieti, sunteti foarte amabil, incerc variantele si revin cu intrebari, sa nu postez asa prea @generalizat@ despre discutia respectiva. Merci mult.

[Mosh Craciun]

daca folosesti cubaseu, iti recomand cu toata caldura tobele de pe hypersonic.is cateva seturi de tobe care suna bine.pt tobe acustice iti recomand BFD(best fuckin' drumer) tot pt Cubase.pana acum ii cel reusit vst de tobe acustice care l-am auzit si testat.bafta

[Susceptor]

@toti:

Nu mai recomandati un VST/VSTi pentru un anume program (ie nu mai spuneti ca programul ala e pt X), aceste merg in orice VST host compatibil cu versiunea vst.

[Musaro Adriano]

merci mult la toti!!

[karpi]

merci mult la toti!!

 

ai nevoie de un SF2 soundfont synth-player , acesta citeste si poate sa si formeze diferite sound-uri.Pe linga acest lucru este "dinamic" de exemplu ptr toba mica(snare) are in jur de 50 de lovituri inregistrate stereo *SF2 sunt sample=uri *wave de obicei 44,1KHz/16bit stereo trase in studiouri de calitate .

 

si tot asa si ptr HH (fus cinel) , ptr Crash ,Splash ai mai multe sunete cu caracteristici diferite in functie de putere lovituri sau modul de lovire cu batul de toba etc etc .

 

Exista programul BB ( Band in a Box ) acest program are o vasta librarie de exemple in zeci de stiluri de la folclor la muzica classica .

 

poti sa exporti midi-file ( midi 0) si vei avea ptr \cubase sau alt sequencer ca si Sonar-Cackewalk tobele separat pe fiecare componenta .Cate un track ptr fiecare .* snare, Bass drum, cinele, etc) .

 

Se instaleaza SF2 playerul in Cubase la plugins si alegi "biblioteca de SF2 soundfont " .Era intr-un timp pe net free "sfz+" un sintetizator de SF2 si cateva soundfonturi "Bigkit " de tobe tot free , ca si demo .Si folosind ritmul luat din BB il poti modifica , poti sa introduci si sa scoti "batai" sa faci treceri unde ai nevoie.Apoi poti salva ca si wave sau tot midi .

 

sau folosesti sunetele de pe pleca de sunet pana inveti sa folosesti programele.

 

Poti folosi Fruitty Loops , dar in acest caz creezi tobele in acesta si exporti ca si wave file ce incarci intr-un sequencer ca si Cubase pe un track stereo si canti pe celelalte track-uri cu chitarele,apoi mixezi .Problema apare cand vrei sa ridici sau sa cobori volumul la o piesa din tobe ( tom sau cinel etc) rebuie sa pornesti Fruity Loops si sa refaci aici balansul volumelor din tobe, plus si trecerile (breaks) le faci cum crezi apoi revii daca nu suna bine cu chitara si refaci .

 

Am mai pus pe rgc.ro o sumedenie de adrese ptr tobe , foarte multe ..numai daca coipiezi demourile ai la tobe cate vrei ptr exersat acasa ,si ptr a face demouri cu chitara.

s-a mai discutat aici :

http://forums.rgc.ro/index.php?showtopic=15474

http://forums.rgc.ro/index.php?showtopic=11544

 

http://forums.rgc.ro/index.php?showtopic=803

 

 

am gasit si adresele

 

am cautat site-uri cu sample de toate felurile , gasesti de toate si FREE doar sa ai rabdare , le pun asa ca nu mai stiu adresa unde le-am gasit , pe un alt forum de muzica

 

multe dau demouri lungi , sunt tobari care au pus demouri free , acestea le salvezi si le ajustezi ca sa fie "loop" apoi in sequencer/mixer le pui cap la cap si ai drumtrack .

 

plus gasesti link-uri la tot felul de programe , drum machines etc

 

 

Samples Sites

 

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Thanks to sanse_titre and scratch pet land's sun ok papi ko for this listing

 

http://allreason.0catch.com

http://artists.mp3s.com/artists/245/nate_conrad.html

http://bassandtrouble.com/sounds/wavs3000/wavs3000.htm

http://bbrunoo.free.fr/samples-wav/samples.html

http://beatbot.com

http://digilander.iol.it/Geecko1/Index.html

http://dnbforum.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=2088

http://formen.ign.com/news/33643.html

http://freeradicalsounds.com/julbeat.htm

http://freesfx.com/basbom1cdov3.html

http://go.to/samples4u.net

http://hello.to/synthesizers

http://hem.passagen.se/lej97/kalava

http://hem2.passagen.se/lej97/kalava

http://home.freeuk.net/freemusic/home.htm

http://home.no.net/okval/info.htm

http://homepages.nildram.co.uk/~mac/loops

http://incompetech.com

http://internettrash.com/users/sampledirect

http://machines.hyperreal.org/samples

http://machines.hyperreal.org/samples.html

http://matrix-12.tripod.com/home.htm

http://meanbeat.cjb.net

http://megascorpion.com/resources.html

http://members.liwest.at/web/audiowerk/apw.htm

http://members.tripod.com/adm/interstitial/remote.html

http://membres.lycos.fr/maxllo/loops.htm

http://misterbuster.com/loops.asp

http://mp3-tribe.com

http://musicmoz.org/Sound_Files/Samples_and_Loops

http://norsez.tripod.com

http://ozonemusic.h1.ru/samples/samples7.htm

http://powersamples.free.fr/index2.htm

http://samplezone.org

http://sonikmatter.com/sounds

http://sonikmatter.com/sounds/wavs/cowzar_Jan01

http://soundbank.web.services.hu

http://spec.ch.man.ac.uk/~ashley/samples.html

http://studio.dubroom.org/samples

http://synthplace.freeservers.com

http://tduck.ca

http://tilt.largo.fl.us/samples/free.html

http://tilt.largo.fl.us/samples/samples.html

http://tinpan.fortunecity.com/aphex/113/index.html

http://titan.spaceports.com/~upbeat

http://tools.coffeecup.com/Free_Sounds

http://trackers.pp.ru/links/index.php?list=ls

http://users.chariot.net.au/~lucas/bankflash.html

http://users.skynet.be/lightworks/midi.html

http://users.yesmate.com/djscooby

http://us-raves.com

http://usraves.com/sample/index.php

http://vulcan.spaceports.com/~maldoror

http://web.iol.cz/mpc/sa

http://www.16bitsamples.com/index.html

http://www.4musicminds.com

http://www.714cartel.com/loops/loops.html

http://www.a1freesoundeffects.com

http://www.acapella-heaven.tk

http://www.acidfanatic.com

http://www.acidplanet.com/artist.asp?songs=145390&T=1915

http://www.acidplanet.com/tools/8packs

http://www.amguk.co.uk

http://www.analogindustries.com

http://www.analoguesamples.com

http://www.angelfire.com/music2/richhoncho/software.htm

http://www.angelfire.com/on4/reason

http://www.apocalypse-sound.com

http://www.asterick.com/sample_links.html

http://www.audio360.com/index.jsp

http://www.audioattack.de

http://www.audiomelody.com/Samples.htm

http://www.audiomidi.com/software/sounds_acid.cfm

http://www.audiowerkstatt.fly.to/reason.htm

http://www.avhangout.net

http://www.axisl.com/music_loops_all.asp

http://www.bannervision.com/davehill/loops_kits_sounds.htm

http://www.bap.free.fr/html/sample.html

http://www.bassculture.org

http://www.bassment.net

http://www.bassquake.co.uk

http://www.beatmode.com/free-loops

http://www.beatsandbreaks.co.uk/kidkoalalp.html

http://www.beatsandsamples.com

http://www.bigfishaudio.com/4DCGI/whatsHot.html

http://www.bomis.com/rings/Mmusic-samples_and_loops-arts

http://www.break-beats.co.uk

http://www.breakbeatsonly.com

http://www.breakbeatsonly.com/links.htm

http://www.breakbeatsonly.com/preview1.htm

http://www.bries3.yucom.be

http://www.brothercake.com/links/sample.php

http://www.chaosisyourdestiny.com/Free.htm

http://www.cobwebaudio.co.uk/sample_archives

http://www.cpaterson.clara.net

http://www.cubelabs.com/indep/loops.htm

http://www.cybergroove.de/e_index.htm

http://www.cybernoc.com.pl/loopy.html

http://www.dailywav.com

http://www.danirava.com/links/links_samples.asp

http://www.deltaz-palaze.de

http://www.digimpro.com/samples.html

http://www.discretedrums.com

http://www.djbb.dk/samples_eng.html

http://www.djsamples.com

http://www.djsol.fsnet.co.uk/Links_frame.html

http://www.djzx.com/Music/Samples

http://www.dnbproduction.com/link.asp?message=0

http://www.dogbeats.co.uk

http://www.dogsonacid.com/samples

http://www.dooleydrums.com

http://www.downloadsafari.com/Files/mmaudio

http://www.drumdrops.com/freebreaks.asp

http://www.drummachine.com

http://www.drummachine.com/newpages/sounds.html

http://www.drumnbass.be

http://www.drumsamples.com

http://www.drumslive.com/freeloops.htm .........................koser

http://www.dynamicforce.freeserve.co.uk/download.htm

http://www.dysmusax.cz/eng

http://www.eastwestsamples.com/details.php?cd_index=162

http://www.echovibes.com

http://www.echovibes.com/Autorank/autorank2.html

http://www.e-drummer.net

http://www.e-lab.se

http://www.electronisounds.com

http://www.electronisounds.com/AKAI_CDs.html

http://www.endlessflow.com

http://www.entropymusic.com/freeloops.htm

http://www.f6.co.nz/artificial

http://www.fabtrax.com/_resources/res_samples.htm

http://www.findsounds.com

http://www.findsounds.com/ISAPI/search.dll

http://www.flashkit.com/loops

http://www.flashkit.com/soundfx/index.shtml

http://www.flashmove.com/link/Audio/Free

http://www.flashmove.com/link/Audio/Loops

http://www.flashthief.com/freesound/techno/1.htm

http://www.fleximusic.com/links/links.htm

http://www.fortunecity.com/roswell/randles/66

http://www.freaknoise.com

http://www.freaknoise.com

http://www.freeloops.co.uk

http://www.freewebs.com/dorumalaia/soundfontssf2.htm

http://www.fullblownkirk.com/fbk/samples.htm

http://www.funk-station.co.uk/links.htm

http://www.futurewaveshaper.com

http://www.futurewebsonics.com

http://www.gainrecordings.net/viewtopic.php?t=155

http://www.garritan.com

http://www.geocities.com/~junebugtd7/drum_loop_central

http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/Congress/8516

http://www.geocities.com/ignite_music

http://www.geocities.com/norsez/reason.html

http://www.geocities.com/s4u_site/newlinks.html

http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Museum/4312

http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Plaza/2793/wavload.html

http://www.globaldrum.com/interface/sampleORB

http://www.goltstein.com

http://www.greyinc.co.uk

http://www.groundloops.com/archive.htm

http://www.guitarwavs.com

http://www.harkproductions.com

http://www.heimsnet.is/lowprofile

http://www.hissingsid.com/freesamps.htm

http://www.hornet.org/music/samples

http://www.housemuzak.com/housemuziq/samples.html

http://www.hqsamples.com.ua/home.php?type=all

http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/multimedia/sun-sounds

http://www.ikstore.com/Cgi/IKSoundsDB.cgi?Request=ALLSounds

http://www.illnon.com/samplecds.html

http://www.imprint-music.demon.co.uk/frestuf.htm

http://www.invisiblesounds.net/home.html

http://www.iriehights.com/samples

http://www.jara.demon.co.uk/bass

http://www.joor.com

http://www.junglebreaks.btinternet.co.uk

http://www.junglebreaks.btinternet.co.uk/links.html

http://www.killerbeats.com

http://www.kniteforce.co.uk/index2.htm

http://www.kvr-vst.com

http://www.licoricepizza.com/beatz.html

http://www.lightman.com/wakey/davidsmusic/loops.htm

http://www.loknet.demon.co.uk/leech/breakbeats.html

http://www.looperman.com

http://www.loopfrog.com/free.asp

http://www.loopgalaxy.com

http://www.loopguitars.com/samples.asp

http://www.looplibrary.com

http://www.looplibrary.com/freeloopssurvey.htm

http://www.loops.net

http://www.loopsagogo.com

http://www.loopsandgrooves.com

http://www.loopsandgrooves.com/ita/pagine/promo.htm

http://www.loopwise.com/freeloops.htm >>>....http://www.loopwise.com/sound_fonts.html

http://www.loopwise.com/musicloops.htm

http://www.media-tracks.com

http://www.members.tripod.com/hakachukai/samples.html

http://www.modarchive.com

http://www.modarchive.com/waveworld

http://www.modarchive.com/waveworld/synths.shtml

http://www.mourningafter.net/sizers

http://www.musiclibraries.tv

http://www.musicoflife.com/beatsbreaks.htm

http://www.musicware.dial.pipex.com

http://www.musiksamples.de

http://www.muziqnet.com/dir/Audio/Sample_Websites

http://www.oneshotsamples.com

http://www.paradox-tunes.de.vu

http://www.partnersinrhyme.com/contents/contentssfx.html

http://www.peaceloveproductions.com

http://www.peff.com/reasonarchive/nrpb.html

http://www.phalanx.co.uk/loops.html

http://www.phatdrumloops.com

http://www.phatdrumloops.com/old_site

http://www.platinumloops.com

http://www.pocketfuel.com

http://www.powerhouse-remix.com/breaks.html

http://www.primesounds.com

http://www.primesounds.com/prime2/home.jhtml

http://www.propellerheads.se/downloads/refills/main.html

http://www.psylux.com/reason

http://www.pyraplastic.com/samples.htm

http://www.q-music.co.uk/platinum.htm

http://www.raw42.com/samples

http://www.reasonrefills.com

http://www.reasonrefills.com/rex.html

http://www.reelsounds.com/sounds.htm

http://www.robpapen.com

http://www.royaltyfreemusicproduction.com

http://www.samplearena.com

http://www.samplearena.com/sites.htm

http://www.samplecell.com/dwnld1.html

http://www.samplecity.net

http://www.samplecity.net/index.html

http://www.samplemania.org

http://www.samplenet.co.uk

http://www.samplepoolz.de

http://www.samplez.de

http://www.slickmedia.com/super/index2.html

http://www.sonicfoundry.com/loop_libraries

http://www.sonichound.com

http://www.sonicimplants.com

http://www.sonicmayhem.com

http://www.sonicmayhem.com/site_ie.html

http://www.sonomic.com

http://www.soundbank.hu

http://www.soundcentral.com

http://www.sounddimension.com/refills.html

http://www.sounddogs.com

http://www.sounddogs.com/searchresults.asp?Keyword=Loops

http://www.soundeffects.com

http://www.soundeffects.com/musloopandsa1.html

http://www.sound-effects-library.com

http://www.soundfx.com/killersoundmusiclibraries.htm

http://www.soundoftheweb.com/soundeffects

http://www.sound-planet.de/topsites/topsites5.html

http://www.soundproz.com

http://www.soundsonline.com

http://www.soundsonline.com/revAI-100.shtml

http://www.soundsreasonable.net

http://www.sounduser.com/links/samplesdownload.cfm

http://www.soundzone.info/index.php?zone=7§ion=2

http://www.spongebrain.co.uk

http://www.squarecircle.co.uk/links.html

http://www.stelaxy.de

http://www.stonewashed.net/sfx.html

http://www.stormchild.net

http://www.stormtronic.co.uk/loopfish

http://www.streetbeats.co.uk

http://www.studiopt.com/audio1.html

http://www.super-groove.com/sep/pages/free_loops.asp

http://www.superloops.com/default.htm

http://www.synthzone.com

http://www.synthzone.com/drums.htm

http://www.synthzone.com/sampling.htm

http://www.tapegerm.com/freeloops

http://www.tb303.com/slice/reason.htm

http://www.technotoys.com/sample.htm

http://www.thelooplibrary.com/index.html

http://www.thesoundsite.net

http://www.thespeakerboy.com

http://www.tigerbill.com/subjects/dloops.htm

http://www.trayfulloflabmice.com/synthsound.html

http://www.tsunamiwavs.com

http://www.tweakheadz.com

http://www.tweakheadz.com/samples.html

http://www.twilightrecordingstudio.com

http://www.twilightrecordingstudio.com/Freesamples.htm

http://www.united-trackers.org/samples/index.htm

http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~spufus

http://www.us-raves.com/sample

http://www.vgmusic.com

http://www.virtualbassplayer.com

http://www.visibleform.co.uk/freemusic.html

http://www.wavcentral.com

http://www.waveform.dk

http://www.wavesamples.cjb.net

http://www.wix.easynet.be/FREE_SAMPLES/bod...ee_samples.html

http://www.wyze.com/sampleshack/sampleshack.html

http://www.xelenio.com

http://www.zero-g.co.uk

http://www.zoolabmusic.com

http://x-stream.fortunecity.com/kingsrd/58

http://naturalstudio.co.uk/ns_kit7freedownload.html

[Musaro Adriano]

merci mult karpi, foarte amabil, chiar incercam sa bibilesc cate ceva cu cubase!!

Pentru linkuri merci, cred ca am pentru o viata intreaga acolo! Am si band in a box, il folosesc foarte des, dar nu stiam ca se poate scoate tobele de acolo midi. Oricum incerc si eventual te trimit un PM. Merci mult!

[karpi]

merci mult karpi, foarte amabil, chiar incercam sa bibilesc cate ceva cu cubase!!

Pentru linkuri merci, cred ca am pentru o viata intreaga acolo! Am si band in a box, il folosesc foarte des, dar nu stiam ca se poate scoate tobele de acolo midi. Oricum incerc si eventual te trimit un PM. Merci mult!

export midi file

 

apoi daca sunt si alt instrumente poti sa renunti la acele track-uri , de exemplu iei cha -cha , bossa nouva , sau alt ritm sudamerican si il pui la viteza mai mare , si scoti sau adaugi la ritm ce doresti...in PIANO-ROLL .Deocamdata poti sa pui si soundfont de pe soundcard , pana te inveti .Apoi salvezi ce i-ti convine si mai tarziu cu un soundfont-synth ce instalezi in midi prin Midi Device ....si apare la VST Instruments , de aici cand ai reusit il aduci in midi track-uri.

 

la mine functioneaza cu ___In: All Midi Inputs

 

si_____________________out :VST instrument

 

VST instrument il aduci in sistem prin :toolbar--------DEVICES -----se deschide popup window alegi VST Instruments..acolo scrie pe ferestre negre : No VST Instrument...click pe prima freastra mica neagra se deschide o lista cu VST Instruments ce le ai puse in Cubase ( doua cel putin exista din Cubase: Drums si Synths si Universal VST Module acestea parca erau de cand am instalat Cubase)

 

Apoi mai citesti la sectiunea MIDI cum sa dai un canal MIDI fiecarui instrument daca ai mai multe .Tobele de obicei sunt pe canalul 10 din midi soundfont , dar pot fi si exceptii la alt fel de soundfont de ex SF2 pot avea alte imparteli pe "MIDI NOTE" si pot fi tobe pe alt canal .Oricum daca vei folosi mai multe soundfonturi va trebui sa le pui in functiune pe canale separate , poate trebuie si sincronizate.Unele sunt "citite" mai incet cand au efecte midi (reverb, portamento, autowah, ecou, etc etc )in acest caz se intarzie canalul care merge mai "repede" ...

 

fa experiente pe cate o masura doua ca sa mearga repede cu invatatul ,Dupa ce stii cateva din setarile de baza poti sa faci un track complect .Vezi ca se poate " multiplica " cate un patern ( masura sau mai multe masuri ) si numai masurile cu break trebuie facute separat si intercalate unde trebuie .( copy/paste ) , poate stiai dar am scris ptr siguranta .

Spor la batut tobele .

[Guest thenicestguys23]

Here some other good ones if you're willing to pay a bit more money for professional sounding effects...

 

Sound Effects CD

 

Sound FX Shop

 

Pro SFX