scala(whatever that is) si dimensiuni la griful chitarii

[ciuci]

in primul rand ce este scala? ... chestia aia cu 24.5/25/27barithone whatever

dupaia, cum se caracterizeaza distanta dintre corzi, lungimea grifului? ce alte chestii se mai masoara?

si cum imi dau seama ce freturi am la chitara mea? (medium, jumbo, medium-jumbo etc...)

[Guest kiwi_rady]

Scale - lungimea tastierei.

23.5-25.5 (inch) - chitara

27-30 - chitara baritone (hibrid bass/chitara)

32-35 - chitara bass

 

Astea sunt cele mai uzuale dimensiuni, pentru instrumentele electrice. Totusi sunt multe exceptii

[Guest Ildest]

Scale - lungimea tastierei.

23.5-25.5 (inch) - chitara

27-30 - chitara baritone (hibrid bass/chitara)

32-35 - chitara bass

 

Astea sunt cele mai uzuale dimensiuni, pentru instrumentele electrice. Totusi sunt multe exceptii

 

NU prea e adevarat ce zici tu aci ... cel putin nu tot .. scale = lungimea de vibratie a corzii adik de la bridge la nut

 

Cat despre celelalte intrebari .. Baritonul e o chitara la care merg mult mai bine acordaje(nu cred ca e chiar corect cuvantul) mai joase D,C,B,A decat la cele cu scale normal

(pana in 27)

Distanta intre corzi .. asta cred ca depinde in mare masura de cat de lat e griful si de obicei e aproximativ egala.

Lungimea grifului ... asta nu ar trebui sa te intereseze prea mult ... mai bine te-ar interesa cat de bine ajungi la unele taste .. ca sunt unele chitari la care sptiile peste 18 pe corzile mai groase sunt puse degeaba, ca oricum nu prea ajungi la ele decat foarte greu. Cele mai accesibile mi se par formele de tip flying V.

Se mai masoara .. latimea si grosimea grifului(in diferite puncte .. de obicei la nut si tasta 12) , punctul de greutate al chitarii (ff important in concerte .. dar asta nu prea se masoara .. se simte), gradul de curbura al fingerboardului(tastiera) care iti da o idee cam cat de plat e el, distanta intre coarda si doza(prea mica si numai ai sustain .. prea pmare si nu se prea mai aude) si multe alte chestii

Edited September 13, 2006 by Ildest

[vektor]

*** iar eram pe id'u lu fratimiu ... srry

NU prea e adevarat ce zici tu aci ... cel putin nu tot .. scale = lungimea de vibratie a corzii adik de la bridge la nut wink.gif

 

Sau asa . Thanks (nu eram prea sigur).

[Guest Ildest]

Nici o problema ...

si daca tot pun un post .. hai sa dau si MULTE inf despre scale ...

 

 

Electric Guitar

As of 2006, the scale length of the electric guitar was one of the least standardised of all instruments.

 

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History

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Fender have used a standard scale length of 25.5" since the original Fender Esquire, but have also produced several 24" models which they describe as full scale to distinguish them from the student or 3/4 scale models. These 3/4 scale models have most commonly been 22.5", but some have been shorter.

 

Gibson have used several scale lengths, but most commonly 24.75", which was the scale of the original 1937 Gibson ES-150 and the Gibson Les Paul. However later ES-150 guitars had a 25.5" scale length.

 

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Summary

This list is incomplete. Please add significant examples.

 

20.75" (527mm):

Squier Bullet Mini, a hard-tail Stratocaster look-alike described as 3/4 size.

22.5" (572mm), known as 3/4 scale in Fender sales literature:

Fender Musicmaster, Fender Duosonic.

Fender Mustang some early examples.

Some Musicmaster II and Duosonic II, but rare.

22.72” (577mm):

Fender Stratocaster Junior.

24" (610mm), confusingly called full scale in Fender sales literature:

Fender Jaguar.

Most Fender Mustang including current models.

Most Musicmaster II and Duosonic II.

Fender Bronco.

24.75" (629mm):

Gibson Les Paul, Gibson SG.

Original Gibson ES-150.

Fender Cyclone.

25" (635mm), Invented by Paul Reed Smith to combine the best of both worlds between Fenders' 25.5" scale and Gibsons' 24.75" scale.

Most PRS guitars

25.5" (648mm), known as standard scale, and approximately equal to the classical guitar scale:

Fender Esquire, Telecaster, Stratocaster, Jazzmaster.

Squire (Fender) Strat (based on 1 sample)

Most Gibson ES-150 including current models.

 

Bass

 

Electric bass

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History

The first electric basses were upright electric basses built in the 1930s by fitting an otherwise normal string bass with electric pickups, and so had a scale length of about 43".

 

In 1951 the Fender Precision Bass shortened this to 34". This is still often regarded as the standard length for a bass guitar.

 

On a modern bass guitar, 30" or less is considered short scale, standard (also called long) scale is 34" for a 4 string and 35" for a B-E-A-D-G 5 string, and extra-long scale basses of 36" also exist.

 

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Summary

28.5" (724mm)

Fender Jaguar Bass VI Custom.

30" (762mm)

Fender Mustang Bass, Fender Bronco Bass, Fender Musicmaster Bass

30.5" (775mm)

Gibson EB-1, EB-0 and other EB-x basses, Gibson SG bass.

Fender Bass VI.

33.5" (851mm)

Rickenbacker 4000 Series basses.

34" (864mm)

Fender Precision Bass, Jazz Bass, Jaguar Bass.

Gibson Thunderbird Bass.

34.5" (876mm)

Gibson EB-0L and other EB-xL basses.

42.3"-43.3" (1050-1100mm) Upright bass (for comparison) (asta cred ca e contrabasul din concerte).

 

sursa .... From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

 

 

 

Si un link care explica mai totul despre fingerboard http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radius_%28string_instruments%29

Edited September 13, 2006 by Ildest

[Doctor X]

10x Ildest.

Ca si completare, sunt foarte misto explicatiile de aici http://www.12fret.com/fret/fv4n7.htm.

[cearny]

Tineti minte ca e vorba despre un instrument cu o existenta foarte scurta, deci e normal sa existe multe variante

[ciuci]

ochei deci scala= distanta de la inceputu gatului la bridge...

dar cu distanta dintre corzi cum e? de unde imi dau eu seama ce distanta este intre corzile unei chitari care e expusa pe un site??(ideea e ca eu sunt obisnuit cu o distanta, si nu vreau una mai mica/mare atunci cand imi cumpar o chitara noua)

[cearny]

Succes mare

 

In general te poti uita la 'nut width', totusi.

[Guest Ildest]

E cam greu ceea ce ceri tu .. majoritatea producatorilor nu pun aceste date pe net . si nici chiar in cartea tehnica a chitarii.

Iti poti face totusi o idee, asa cum a zis si cearny, din latimea la nut ... dar poate sa difere latimea la bridge .. si asa la 2 chitari cu latimea la nut identica o sa ai 2 distante diferite intre corzi.

Ce zici tu acolo cu obisnuinta e cam kk .. o sa te obisnuiesti cu alta chitara oricum .. doar nu o sa iti iei o replica fidela a chitarii tale?

[ciuci]

pai nu sa fie la fel, da sa aiba aprox. aceleasi speciticatii la grif IN LIMITA POSIBILATITLOR adica daca am de ales intre doua chitari si amandoua imi plac la fel de mult, de ce sa nu o iau pe aia cu care imi va lua mai putin timp sa ma obisnuiesc?!? daca nu, buna ii oricum.... mai ales ca nu imi iau chitara in curand ....ca deh, low budget + ca nici nu prea merit deocamdata ceva mai bun, daca ii s'o spunem p'aia dreapta....

btw, multzam de raspunsuri