Farewell, Tarja!

[Guest Baumwolle]

Stirea am observat-o la cineva din lista mea de Y!M, v-o impartasesc si voua.

 

http://www.nightwish.com/english/lettertotarjaen.html

 

 

EDIT:Situ merge foarte greu, multora nu li se incarca deloc...Sper ca este doar o gluma proasta.

Edited October 23, 2005 by Baumwolle

[cearny]

Dear Tarja,

It`s time to choose whether the story of Nightwish ends here or whether it will still continue an undetermined period of time. We`ve been working with this creation for 9 years and we are not ready to give up yet. Nightwish is a way of life, something to live for, and we`re certain we can`t let it go.

 

Equally certain is the fact that we cannot go on with you and Marcelo any longer. During the last year something sad happened, which I`ve been going over in my head every single day, morning and night. Your attitude and behavior don`t go with Nightwish anymore. There are characteristics I would never have believed to see in my old dear friend.

People who don`t talk with each other for a year do not belong in the same band.

 

We are involved in an industry where the business-side of things is a necessary evil and something to worry about all the time. We are also a band which has always done music from the heart, because of friendship and the music itself. The mental satisfaction should always be more important than money! Nightwish is a band, it`s an emotion.

To you, unfortunately, business, money, and things that have nothing to do with those emotions have become much more important. You feel that you have sacrificed yourself and your musical career for Nightwish, rather than thinking what it has given to you.

This attitude was clearly shown to me in the two things you said to me in an airplane in Toronto: ”I don`t need Nightwish anymore.” and ”Remember, Tuomas, that I could leave this band at any time, giving you only one day`s warning in advance”.

I can`t simply write any more songs for you to sing.

 

You have said yourself that you are merely a ”guest musician” in Nightwish. Now that visit ends and we will continue Nightwish with a new female vocalist.

We`re sure this is an equally big relief to you as it is for us. We have all been feeling bad long enough.

 

You told us that no matter what, the next Nightwish album will be your last one. However, the rest of us want to continue as long as the fire burns. So there`s no sense in doing that next album with you, either.

The four of us have been going over this situation countless times and we have realized that this is the thing we want to do in life. It´s all we can do. In December 2004, in Germany, you said that you will never tour again for more than two weeks at a time. You also said that we can forget about U.S. and Australia because the fees and the sizes of venues are too small.

 

In interviews I`ve mentioned that if Tarja leaves, that would be the end of the band. I understand that people will think this way. Nightwish is, however, a scenery of my soul and I`m not ready to let go because of one person. A person who wants to focus her creativity to somewhere else, a person whose values don`t match mine.

 

We were never bothered by the fact that you didn`t participate in writing/arranging songs, you never in 9 years came to rehearse the songs with us before going to the studio. Not the fact that while on tour you always wanted to fly, separately from us with your husband. Not the fact that you are an undisputable front image of the band.

We accepted and felt ok about everything except greed, underestimating the fans, and breaking promises. It was agreed by the five of us that Nightwish would be the priority in everything that we do during 2004-2005. Still so many things were more important to you. The ultimate example being the already sold-out show in Oslo, which you wanted to cancel because you needed to rehearse for your solo concerts, meet frieds and go to the movies. Those were the words Marcelo used in an e-mail explaining the cancellation. This being just one example of so many. I couldn`t think of a worse way of being selfish and dismissing our fans.

 

Nightwish is a way of life and a job with many obligations. To each other and to the fans. With you we can`t take care of those duties anymore.

 

Deep within we don`t know which one of you drove us to this point. Somehow Marcelo has changed you from the lovely girl you were into a diva, who doesn`t think or act the way she used to. You are too sure of your irreplaceableness and status.

 

It`s obvious that you blame your stress and misery on us four. And you think we don`t respect or listen to you. Belive us; We have always had the uppermost respect towards you as a wonderful vocalist and as a friend. And very often during the past couple of years the plans were made according to your decisions only. You were always the only one who wanted more money from the shows.

This ”compensation and more money from everything” –attitude is the fact that we are most disappointed of!

 

We wish that from now on you will listen to your heart instead of Marcelo. Cultural differences combined with greed, opportunism and love is a dangerous combination. Do not wither yourself.

 

This decision is not something we are especially proud of but you gave us no choice. The gap between us is too wide. And the decision is made by us four unanimously. We are beyond the point where things could be settled by talking.

 

All the best for your life and career,

 

 

 

Tuomas

 

 

 

Emppu Jukka Marco

 

 

Ps. This is an open letter for everybody.

 

Nu e deloc gluma la cum arata. Imi pare rau de D-na Turunen in cazul acesta, chiar nu merita tona de dragoste pe care o primea de la toti fanii Nightwish daca chiar asa au stat lucrurile.

 

Si, dude, chiar Tuomas a zis ca this is not the end of Nightwish. Si ca ei au luat decizia asta tocmai pentru a nu se intampla asa ceva. Wtf?!

[Guest Baumwolle]

"Gluma" nu in sensul propriu.Dar, dat fiind faptul ca site-ul merge foarte nasol...Pot crede ca s-au jucat "unii"...

[cearny]

Sau si-au dat unii altora link-ul si site-ul e pe butuci tocmai ca e foarte accesat?

[Guest Baumwolle]

Se poate si asta...Totusi, lasati-ma sa sper...

[cearny]

Lasa tu, ca daca pentru tine Nightwish e important, gandeste-te cum e pentru Tuomas. Sunt sigur ca a luat decizia cea mai buna pentru viitor si ca va gasi pe cineva destul de bun.

 

Ah si v-am zis ca, dupa parerea mea, Marco are super voce?

[Guest Baumwolle]

Are, are, dar nu se compara cu Tarja...Voce ca Marco mai au destui.

[Guest _Theo_]

...pai ce...nu-i asa? au perfecta dreptate

[prowler]

respect pt tuomas! am banuit de ceva vreme problema asta la tarja, supertare ca tuomas a pus picioru in prag

 

daca viitoarea vocalista o sa fie macar decenta, io o sa continui sa ascult nightwish ca si pana acu

[hihi]

Bai totusi, nu zic ca nu era marfa Nightwish cu Tarja, dar era cam la fel. Eu cred ca Nightwish o sa gaseasca pe cineva asemanator ei, dar care sa fie mai bun (dpdv muzical) si mai buna (dpdv estetic) .

Cred ca o sa fie o revenire in forta !

[Guest preo]

tarja era tare, dar cine merge mai des pe la opera vede ca mai exista atatia oameni chiar in romania care pot canta chestiile alea pe care ea le canta. intradevar, trebuie talent, voce, ureche, munca si multe altele, dar cred eu ca ii vor gasi o inlocuitoare foarte buna. nu sunt omul care sa zic, frate, ca ea nu mai e nimeni. mai degraba apreciez piesele foarte misto aranjate si bine gandite pe care oamenii aia s'au chinuit sa le faca.

pentru mine grija cea mai mare e daca nou fata va rezista presiunii imense, pentru ca nu va fi deloc usor sa o inlocuiasca pe tarja, nu numai ca voce dar si ca prezenta, si de asemenea, daca producatorii o sa accepte la randul lor schimbarea, pentru ca ei in proportie de 90% produceau imaginea tarjei sub numele de nightwish si doar 10% cel al formatie in sine.

[LinX]

Sunt convins ca vor gasi o inlocuitoare. Exista totusi atatea talente, ca sa nu mai vb de muzicieni profesionisti (finlandeze cantatoare de lieduri), care din asta traiesc.

Intrebarea e daca baietii vor continua comertul pe care il fac in ultima perioada si se vor apuca din nou de muzica, cu sau fara Tarja. Oare ca ultimul album era cel putin jumate de ***** e vina Tarjei?

 

/ Ma f_ut pe cenzura RGCului! Avem eticheta, ce sa mai...

Edited October 23, 2005 by LinX

[Guest sadus]

un pas inainte..mie imi placea instrumentatia..sunt oameni inspirati bine ca ati ejaculat varza aia.e drept ca nu o sa mai sune a nightwish nightwish dar sper ca o sa fie bine, de fapt eu sunt convins.bafta

[cearny]

De pe www.tarjaturunen.com:

 

Since last Sunday morning, I have been asked to express my position by magazines, newspapers, radio and TV stations, fan clubs and fans from Finland and from all over the world. So many in total that it is physically impossible for me to find the time to reply to them all individually. Hence I decided to put down a couple of words in this text to let my fans, family and friends and the public know how I feel after the recent events.

This is a moment of grief and pain and I find it very hard to speak.

 

At the moment I am in Argentina. I hope you can understand that after this shocking life change comparable to a divorce, I didn’t want to stay alone at home in Finland. My husband had booked his tickets to Argentina many months ago and I decided to travel with him at the last minute.

 

But the fact that I am in Argentina and the long distance should of course not be an excuse not to comment on the situation.

 

Last Friday 21st of October was a day the whole band had been waiting for a long time.

 

Practice started early in the morning. I was very sick and nervous because of the fact that I was not even able to sing during the rehearsals.

 

Also nervous because the concert programme was going to be longer than usual for a Nightwish concert. Furthermore we were going to have a special guest to perform with us, more wardrobe changes for myself than usual and for the first time big screens and bigger production on stage.

 

Not to forget that the concert was going to be recorded and filmed.

 

The five of us had finally made it to play Hartwall Arena.

 

Even though every one of us knew in advance that the concert was sold out, finally on stage, we saw that screaming, applauding and standing people took every seat. The feeling was unbelievable.

 

I will never forget how amazing it was to experience the Finnish audience’s gorgeous reception.

 

When the concert was over, I cried of happiness on stage. Happy tears because I was able to do my best as always even though I was sick. Happy tears because our long tour got the greatest possible ending and happy tears because of the best recognition an artist can get: applause and smiling faces.

 

At that moment I didn’t know that I was going to cry again soon.

 

After the concert, the guys of the band invited me backstage to join them and asked me to hug altogether. This felt strange as it was the same kind of hug we traditionally came together for before every concert. That tradition remained between us, even though the tension and increasing pressure already existed since a long period of time.

 

The immediate feeling in me was to thank them, which I did loudly but without any reply.

 

After this, they gave me a letter and asked me to read it the following day. The same letter that is now public.

 

I read it and was shocked.

 

I didn’t know what to say and still at the moment that I am writing these lines, I don’t.

 

I sense great anger in that letter and I continue to have very confused feelings about it, but I don’t want to reply to this anger with an even greater anger. Private matters should never be taken to the public.

 

I know this moment we are going through is very sad for everybody, including the guys.

 

While there would have been so many different possibilities and ways to express what they wanted to tell me with the letter, I remain unable to understand the way they chose to handle this. I am sorry that the guys got me so wrong. I don’t recognize myself at all from the way they described me.

 

 

They mentioned mean things about me, but the fact that they involved Marcelo, my husband, crossed the line. He is the man I love, my friend and has been my biggest support over the last years.

 

We have been band mates for 9 years, experienced good times and not so good ones. I thought I knew them, but I was wrong.

 

Still everything that has happened is not enough to make them evil in my eyes.

 

Now comes a time to calm down and reflect upon all of this.

 

I need to put my feelings together again and I promise to come back to public soon.

I will announce a press conference where I will be talking about my future plans. This doesn’t mean that you should expect this conference to be an instrument to attack anybody. It won’t.

 

The wonderful music we created together won’t be touched by recent events.

 

Thanks a lot to all the people who are supporting me during these sad times. My family, friends, colleagues, and the great number of fans. I love you and I really feel I have not failed you.

 

Tarja

[Guest Baumwolle]

Dreptul la replica.

[Guest om__bun]

pana la urma cum a ramas ?..aveti vreo noutate?

p.s. ce parere aveti de chitaristul lor?..pe mine m-a fascinat tipu ala....mi se pare meserias omu...